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 MSN Encarta - Etymology
The older etymologies made inaccurate but plausible guesses along these lines; many etymologies that are perfectly sound, however, seem at first sight implausible to those who are not acquainted with phonetic laws and the principles of word formation.
The first formal treatise on etymology, however, was Indian, dating as far back perhaps as the 5th century bc, and was composed to explain the difficult words in the Rig-Veda, the oldest and most important of the Hindu sacred books.
With the introduction of Sanskrit into Europe, etymology along more scientific lines was made possible.
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761577625

  
 Origins Of Paranoia
The fourth relevant page gives 'beyond' incorrectly (Psalms 89:27, "I also shall make him firstborn, the most high above [para] the kings of the earth.") since the Jews' religion was not spiritual at the time (a Platonic god was a Greek invention, heaven and hell came even later).
Also, the semantics of 'beyond' and 'beside' are only close in the modern age, within a context where the divine is inaccessible to us mere mortals.
It might if it weren't for the fact that the word "folk" has a meaning.
http://clublet.com/c/c/why?OriginsOfParanoia

  
 Wordsmith.org -- Online Chat with Michael Quinion
My mother used to say: "Words don't mean, people mean." And isn't that a great impediment to communication as most people become angry if you ask them to explain themselves.
An example of Bragg's etymology: that the "real McCoy" derives from the cattle baron Joseph McCoy.
From the Bragg book - he mentions several.
http://www.wordsmith.org/chat/quinion.html

  
 Folk Etymology
The Greeks loved to claim people descended from folk with similar sounding names - the Persians from Perseus, the Medians from Medea - and little snippets of this have even been trusted, like the origins of the Etruscans.
What is the Genesis Of Etymology itself, out of interest?
Etymology is a combination of word analysis (meaning the subdivision of words into their constituent parts, if they are compound) and the tracing of ancestral origin of the parts, the ancestors being called "etymons".
http://clublet.com/c/c/why?FolkEtymology

  
 User talk:Mendel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What you could do is create a disambiguation page under Popular etymology, explaining that it can refer to either folk etymology or fake etymology, and adding brief explanations and links to both.
It certainly does the piece no harm to say that each example is false.
Hmm, I thought it was folk etymology only when the word itself changes (a modification to the word or phrase), but if it also means that if the meaning of the word changes then I would include that in the definition and put back those examples.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mendel

  
 Ralph the Sacred River: Eggcorns and Belial
Of all the etymologies given in the Hebrew Bible that has always been one that I just assumed to be based in fact, it just looks like it should be true.
But the folk understanding of ishah in Hebrew as a "man-ess" must have been irresistible.
Some of the rabbis took it as beli 'ol, "without yoke, lawless." The Qumran texts take it simply as a personal name for Satan or one of his demons.
http://ralphriver.blogspot.com/2005/01/eggcorns-and-belial.html

  
 Straight Dope Staff Report: Is "dead reckoning" short for "deduced reckoning"?
According to this theory, "dead reckoning" in nautical use is properly restricted to mean reckoning relative to something that is dead in the water, taking no account of current and leeway.
These sources agree on the derivation from the adjective "dead" but differ on what "dead" is supposed to mean in this context.
This leads me to believe the "deduced" etymology was unknown to Wasson in 1929.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdeadreckoning.html

  
 What is the origin of the word "Cheyenne"?
Note that the forms s^a' '(be) red', and ia' 'to speak' are attested in Buechel, as well as ska' and ie'=ska, but not s^a'=ia, lending some credence to notion that the compound exists only in the context of the folk etynology.
There is no question about the etymology of Cheyenne.
The first of these is probably a typographical or other error for S^ahiye=la, under the influence of the second form.
http://www.geocities.com/cheyenne_language/origin.htm

  
 Wordorigins.org: Letter H
Tillotson was more interested in casting doubt on the Roman Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation by likening it to a magician's trick than he was in providing an accurate etymology.
It is believed to have originated in Gothic and spread to the other Germanic tribes.
Most words of this age have unclear etymologies, but this is not the case with heathen.
http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorh.htm

  
 Modern folk etymology has connected Vali with Valentine
Modern folk etymology has connected Vali with Valentine’s Day, though there is actually no evidence for this; the pagan origins of this semi-Christianized feast are derived from the Roman Lupercalia, not from anything Norse.
Nevertheless, there is no reason not to hail Vali on this day, and many Asatruar do.
Modern folk etymology has connected Vali with Valentine
http://www.valleyoakkindred.com/February/Feast%20of%20Vali.htm

  
 Pluck Yew (Origin of 'The Finger') - Netlore Archive
Over the years some 'folk etymologies' have grown up around this symbolic gesture.
It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the bird".
Thank you for the Agincourt 'Puzzler', which clears up some profound questions of etymology, folklore and emotional symbolism.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-pluck-yew.htm

  
 [KS] Re: Folk Etymology [Was "Etymology of "Hof"?"]
REPLY sends your message to the whole list __________________________________________ > Could someone enlighten me regarding the etymology of the Korean word > "Hof" (as in English "bar / drinking place It was maybe two years ago that I put exactly that question to my wife, a native speaker of Korean.
Previous message: [KS] An open letter to Epstein and other list members
She then made me promise never to tell anyone about her one-woman folk etymology...
http://koreaweb.ws/pipermail/koreanstudies_koreaweb.ws/2000-October/002647.html

  
 Online Etymology Dictionary
Peloponnesos, second element apparently nesos "island," first element said to be named for Pelops, son of Tantalus, who killed him and served him to the gods as food (they later restored him to life).
O.E., from L. gentiana, said by Pliny to be named for Gentius, king of ancient Illyria who discovered its properties.
Folk etymology is from *corde du roi "the king's cord," but this is not attested in Fr., where the term for the cloth was velours à côtes.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=folk&searchmode=phrase

  
 Rake article - Rake stock character seduces folk etymology Hell etymology Norse - What-Means.com
An earlier form of the word was rake-hell, a form reshaped by folk etymology to mean someone who stokes the fires of Hell.
The actual etymology of the word is from the Old Norse reikall, meaning "vagrant" or "wanderer;" this was borrowed into Middle English as rakel.
Compeyson, the man who jilted Miss Havisham in Great Expectations by Charles Dickens
http://www.what-means.com/encyclopedia/Cad

  
 [No title]
That's all I can find in the books available to me. Can someone comment on the etymology of the modern meaning of Ch-Z-R or the earliest times and places where the meaning "return" is attested?
In a Sabaean dictionary, I found Ch-Z-R given as " prohibited, banned, exempt from" and a classical Arabic cognate as meaning "prohibited, forbidden".
I was not trying to propose a new etymology for ANŠE.KUR.RA, though I have had problem with the traditional one for a long time, since in my admittedly meagre knowledge of animal husbandry, the "mountain donkey" would be the onager rather than the horse, but what do I know.
http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/ANE/ANE-DIGEST/1999/v1999.n356

  
 Language Log: Egg corns: folk etymology, malapropism, mondegreen, ???
Note, by the way, that the author of this mis-hearing may be a speaker of the dialect in which "beg" has the same vowel as the first syllable of "bagel".
It's not a folk etymology, because this is the usage of one person rather than an entire speech community.
Chris Potts has told me about a case in which a woman wrote "egg corns" for "acorns." This might be taken to be a folk etymology, like "Jerusalem" for "girasole" in "Jerusalem artichoke" (a kind of sunflower).
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000018.html

  
 Etymologie, Étymologie, Etymology - US Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika, États-Unis, United States of ...
019263 01/12/30 17:41 100 Re: Etymology Notes: "Blessed"
020536 02/02/23 17:18 60 Re: QUESTION: Meaning & etymology of "mosey"
http://www.etymologie.info/~e/u_/us-ngo___.html

  
 Language Log: Lady Mondegreen says her peace about egg corns
In a recent posting, Geoff Pullum accepts Mark Liberman's earlier argument that "folk etymology" isn't quite right, because the reinterpretation hasn't spread yet, and (possibly with the example of...
Several other -- highly educated -- folks chime in on his side, and they provide rationales for their version of the idiom.
In a recent posting, Geoff Pullum accepts Mark Liberman's earlier argument that "folk etymology" isn't quite right, because the reinterpretation hasn't spread yet, and (possibly with the example of "mondegreen" in mind) suggests the label "egg corn".
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000074.html

  
 BETTY MARTIN 2
The original phrase was deliberately absurd (no goose ever wore a bridle; no goose’s bridle ever needed to be decorated with a bauble), but it became obscure when the word whim-wham disappeared from common use in the language towards the end of the nineteenth century, except in this phrase a whim-wham for a goose’s bridle.
This is the process by which a word whose origin has been ‘lost’, or which has been borrowed from a foreign language, is remodelled to conform to more familiar words in the language.
This word was borrowed from the Native American Ojibwa language in the early seventeenth century, and at some stage it must have been felt that whim-wham is really a corruption of wigwam.
http://www.anu.edu.au/andc/ozwords/October_96/6._betty.htm

  
 News - TheBestLinks.com - Folk etymology, History, Journalism, Journalists, ...
Old spellings of the word varied widey—newesse, newis, nevis, neus, newys, niewes, newis, nues, etc—casting further doubt on the folk etymological theory.
The word "news" comes from a special use of the plural of the word "new", and not as the common folk etymology claims, from the four cardinal directions (North, East, West, and South).
In democracies, news organizations are often expected to aim for objectivity: reporters cover both sides in a controversy and try to eliminate bias.
http://www.thebestlinks.com/News.html

  
 Michael Quinion's most recent book
Much of this book is a testament to that insouciance about origins.
A large part of this book retells such mythic tales and also tries to find and explain the true stories behind them.
The cat’s pajamas, the bee’s knees, and the whole nine yards rolled into one, this true feast for word lovers skewers commonly accepted word-origin myths and etymological folk tales.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/posh.htm

  
 MSN Encarta - Dictionary - folk etymology
The idea that the origin of the word "posh" is "port out, starboard home," referring to the more expensive side of ships traveling between the U.K. and India, is a folk etymology.
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Search for "folk etymology" in all of MSN Encarta
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861690593_1861612695/nextpage.html

  
 Wormtalk and Slugspeak: 08/01/2004 - 08/31/2004
Some critics read a lot into a putative link between "Moria" and the biblical "Moriah." As can be seen from JRRT's letters, this psuedo-connection (as he saw it) really drove him crazy.
This is a paragraph of text that could go in the sidebar.
Thus you may have written a book about masculinist discourse in 10th-century Latin Saints' Lives that only 30 people on earth will read, but eventually you'll be helping to overturn the social order.
http://wormtalk.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_wormtalk_archive.html

  
 Folk etymology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Folk etymology is particularly important because it can result in the modification of a word or phrase by analogy with the erroneous etymology which is popularly believed to be true.
When a back-formation rests on a misunderstanding of the morphology of the original word, it may be regarded as a kind of folk etymology.
Here the term 'folk etymology' is also used (originally as a shorthand) to refer to the change itself.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_etymology

  
 Fake etymology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A fake etymology, also known as a false etymology, is an invented explanation (etymology) for the origin of a word.
Many vulgar words in particular have been subject to such invented etymologies, most of which have very recent 20th century origins.
There is also the one about the archers who had their middle fingers removed in medieval times to keep them from properly aiming their arrows; however; they would defiantly raise their mangled hands to the enemy and claim they could still "pluck yew".
http://www.butte-silverbow.us/project/wikipedia/index.php/Fake_etymology

  
 Folk etymology - Uncyclopedia
One could make the rather asinine argument that misusing the term is itself modifying its meaning in popular usage, and thus a folk etymology, but techincally it refers to the change of a word or phrase which maintains its original meaning.
A folk etymology is an invented, often clever, explanation of the origin of a word.
Eventually folk etymologies became so distrusted that the term was applied to any apocryphal explanation for the origin of a word.
http://www.uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Folk_etymology

  
 AllWords.com - Dictionary, Guide, Community and More
This site is less of an etymology site and more of presentation of the meaning of the word.
This site explores the etymology of first names.
Their dictionary includes every day, words like the and day, that told what they used to be before we got them.
http://www.allwords.com/Etymology.php

  
 WSO Blog
Folk etymology is from *corde du roi "the king's cord," but this is not attested in Fr., where the term for the cloth was velours à côtes.
There should be an etymologies-only google, that collates etymologies from hundreds of sources so you can get a really complete picture of where some word comes from.
It does have some etymologies but is not nearly complete enough.
http://wso.williams.edu/blog/view?id=480

  
 How Words Are Formed
Modification is where an existing word is changed to form a new one.
Folk etymology is when an unfamiliar word is altered through common use to resemble a more familiar word.
Some people use the term folk etymology to describe a fanciful story behind a word's origin.
http://www.wordorigins.org/Methods.htm

  
 Common Errors in Popular Etymology
This etymology of 'posh' is probably incorrect, but its origin is somewhat in doubt.
Acronymic word origins are often posited for words like fuck (Fornication Under Consent of the King) and posh (Port Out; Starboard Home).
This etymology of 'fuck' is incorrect; it instead derives from a Germanic word.
http://www.wordorigins.org/errors.htm

  
 Take Our Word For It Etymology Book Store -- Strictly Etymology
This is a handy book which contains hard-to-find etymologies of words and, especially, phrases.
This is a newly published version of the Barnhart Dictionary of Etymology, which was the full version of The Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology.
The concise version is so informative that the full version must surely be even better.
http://www.takeourword.com/strictlyEtymology.html

  
 cogling Archives: folk etymology
This is the folk etymology which people indulge in.
etymology style of discussion which was so prevalent in the sign linguistic
The discussion of sign language semantics is degenerating into the typical folk
http://hci.ucsd.edu/cogling/0107.html

  
 Australian Word Map
Folk etymologies are similar stories but about the origins of words.
Their appeal lies in the way they seem to fit the meaning of the word in a way that seems profound.
That may say something about the state of research into Aboriginal languages.
http://www.abc.net.au/wordmap/rel_stories/talkback.htm

  
 MSN Encarta - Search Results - folk etymology
Search for books about your topic, "folk etymology"
Etymology, branch of linguistics that deals with the origin and development of words and with the comparison of similar words, or cognates, in...
Proverbs: Different strokes for different folks., Proverbs: There's nought so queer as…
http://encarta.msn.com/folk+etymology.html

  
 Interesting Thing of the Day: Folk Etymology
Closely related to folk etymology (or even, according to some people, a subset of the phenomenon) is a process called back-formation.
For some discussion about back-formation vs. folk etymology, see this post and this one on the Linguist List.
Back-formation occurs when speakers remove a portion of a word, incorrectly assuming it’s a suffix, to form a new word.
http://itotd.com/index.alt?ArticleID=406

  
 Etymological Glossary and Weekley's Test for Etymological Accuracy
The etymology must start from the earliest or most fundamental sense of the word
For instance, although it is commonly believed, posh does not derive from port out, starboard home.
An etymology which, despite its popularity, wide distribution or apparent logic, is false.
http://www.takeourword.com/glossary.html

  
 Phrase and word origins
What is the etymology of Coochie-Coo, Hooch, Hoochy, Hootchy, Hootchie-Cootchie?
Aue has threads on the topic of "naff" dating from 1991, here's the link: etymology of "naff".
BTW I had always known it as 'FELONIOUS unlawful carnal knowledge'.This so-called etymology is not accord with the 'real' etymologies listed in the dictionaries, but (at first blush) I would have thought it someone's attempt at being humorous.
http://www.yaelf.com/questions.shtml

  
 Amazon.ca: Books: Folk-etymology; a dictionary of verbal corruptions or words perverted in form or meaning, by false ...
Subjects > Reference > Words & Language > Etymology
Look for books like Folk-etymology; a dictionary of verbal corruptions or words perverted in form or meaning, by false derivation or mistaken analogy.
Subjects > Nonfiction > Education > Reference > Words & Language > Etymology
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/074264085X

  
 The Mavens' Word of the Day
The expression folk etymology is first attested in the late nineteenth century.
However, in my university days majoring in linguistics, it seems to me that the definition I found most common was "an explanation for the origins of a word or phrase which, though quite logical or popular, is untrue." Was I hallucinating, is this an alternate usage, or are you (gasp) mistaken in your application?
Though one could define the linguistic term folk etymology broadly as 'any popular misconception about the origins of a word or phrase, esp. one resulting in modification', it would be best to divide it up into two separate senses.
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd?date=19970415

  
 Subject: Re: +quot;Dixie+quot; folk etymology Date: 16 Sep 1993 09:13:55 GMT In article +l
I inquired: >> This weekend some friends claimed that "dixie" was coined in the days >>when banks issued their own banknotes, and some of the Lousiana banks >>put "dix" on their $10 bills.
And, believing that, I trudged over to dear old Rice and did some research of my own, to discover that there are 4 (four) competing etymologies.
Subject: Re: +quot;Dixie+quot; folk etymology Date: 16 Sep 1993 09:13:55 GMT In article +l
http://www.skepticfiles.org/urban/dixieorg.htm

  
 Posh
The fact that this folk etymology is only recorded 17 years after the terms earliest known appearance (in the 25th September 1918 issue of Punch) also lends weight to the theory that this etymology is merely apocryphal.
Popular Folk etymology states the expression originated from the phrase "Port Out, Starboard Home", referred to the most desirable cabin locations on ships travelling to and from British colonies in the Far East.
However, extensive searching of shipping company records and tickets from that period has failed to reveal any evidence for this claim.
http://www.theezine.net/p/posh.html

  
 etymology
That is why we will try to find out what the folk notion of etymology is and what it is that people are interested in.
That is why we will use semantic, lexical and phonological approaches to better understand the etymology of English words.
Academically, etymology was closely associated with philology, and, today, is largely incorporated into historical semantics, but also borders on phonology and lexicology.
http://www.kl.unibe.ch/kl/llbs1/Englisch/etymology.htm

  
 [No title]
Which form to use for Exercise 7 (Investigating Folk Etymologies)
http://tournesol.usc.edu/ling466/exercises/folk_etymology_list.html

  
 [No title]
If my "subconscious" assumptions (regarding the origin of dreydl) are indeed evidence of how folk-etymology works, then they should be evidence whether or not they are well-founded.
in case the problem is the term 'folk etymology', that's when speakers hypothesize that some word comes from something on the basis of its sound (or spelling) but are wrong.
Mikhl Herzog writes: reydl/redl, the diminutive of rod/rud 'wheel' does NOT come from a reading of dreydl as di reydl.
http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~mendele/vol01/vol01.131.txt

  
 FOLK ETYMOLOGY. The Columbia Guide to Standard American English. 1993
However erroneous these folk etymologies may be, many of the words so created have become Standard from long use: a woodchuck is really a woodchuck now.
The cellar in salt cellar is really a sel-er, from medieval French salière, “a salter.” But perhaps the most amusing are mishearings such as the one that made cockroach of Spanish cucaracha and Bob Ruly (a Louisiana placename) of bois brulé.
http://www.bartleby.com/68/73/2573.html

  
 Pantry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The derivation of the word is from the Old French term paneterie, see Folk etymology.
A pantry may contain a thrawl, which is a term used in Yorkshire and Derbyshire, and is a stone slab or shelf used to keep food cool in the days before refrigeration was domestically available.
A pantry is a room in a domestic house used for food storage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantry

  
 Topical Words: Billy-o
For reasons unconnected with World Wide Words, I’ve been looking in some detail in recent months into the stories people tell about the history of words.
A good sign that a folk etymology is present is that stories about an origin come in sets, like delayed buses on city streets.
It’s not often a folk etymology comes with a blue plaque attached—it will be a permanent record that the civic pride of Maldon people exceeds their etymological knowledge, though there’s nothing new in that—see my piece on lynch law.
http://www.quinion.com/words/topicalwords/tw-bil1.htm

  
 keyserprince
The method shared by these examples assumes that words are literally saturated with meaning; that what appears arbitrary or senseless in them can be made to render up its sense and its motivation through a kind of inspired analysis.
We began with the observation that language is often held to enact the world.
Archiving, redistribution, or reduplication of this text in other terms, in any medium, requires both the consent of the authors and the University of Chicago Press.
http://www.uchicago.edu/research/jnl-crit-inq/issues/v6/v6n1.keyserprince.html

  
 folk dance - yourDictionary.com - American Heritage Dictionary
A traditional dance originating among the common people of a nation or region.
A social gathering at which folk dances are performed.
folk dance - yourDictionary.com - American Heritage Dictionary
http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/f/f0226700.html

  
 Encyclopedia of Cajun Culture - ZYDECO
Contrary to popular belief, it is not Cajun in origin; rather, zydeco is the music of south Louisiana’s Creoles of Color, who borrowed many of zydeco’s defining elements from Cajun music.
This phrase has appeared in many Creole songs, and serves as the title of a popular zydeco recording (also called "Zydeco est pas salé").
Without debunking this etymology, folklorist Barry Jean Ancelet has noted that this explanation has been generally accepted without much critical analysis.
http://www.cajunculture.com/Other/zydeco.htm

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