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 Traditionalist Catholic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A new ecclesiology that they claim doesn't equate the Catholic Church with the Church established by Jesus Christ, but treats the Church established by Jesus Christ as merely "subsisting in" the Catholic Church in an undefined way.
They see their situation as comparable to that of traditional Catholics during the Arian heresy when the majority of Bishops were heretics or condoned heresy, and Catholics like Saint Athanasius (who was excommunicated by Pope Liberius and exiled from his see) were vilified yet ultimately canonized.
Most traditional Catholics see the Second Vatican Council itself as a valid Council, but one which was pastoral and which produced no infallibly-given, solemn definitions that Catholics must accept as a part of the Faith.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Catholic   (1838 words)

  
 My <Second Catholic Conversion>: A Reductio ad Absurdum of So-Called Catholic <Traditionalism>
is a statement of the Church's faith and of catholic doctrine, attested to or illumined by Sacred Scripture, the Apostolic Tradition, and the Church's Magisterium.
Catholics everywhere need to rebel against this charlatan, who is making a mockery of the traditional Catholic faith.
We Catholic traditionalists are the small remnant who have kept the faith and True Tradition inviolate, while the neo-Catholic dupes and useful idiots are compromising it all around us.
http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ210.HTM   (4703 words)

  
 ORTHODOXY AND TRADITIONalism - by Gerard V. Bradley - Catholic Dossier - September/October 2000
Catholics who withheld religious assent were wrong to do so.
One of the least explored distinctions in contemporary Catholic thought — and practice — is that between orthodoxy and tradition, between those who are orthodox and those who are traditionalism.
Many good Catholics of my acquaintance say flat out that anything after 1960 in the Church, and in the culture, is bad.
http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Dossier/2000-10/column3.html   (1106 words)

  
 CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Traditionalism
Since Traditionalism, in its fundamental principles, is a kind of Fideism, it falls under the condemnation pronounced by the Church and under the refutation furnished by reason and philosophy against Fideism.
Mitigated or Semi-Traditionalism, in spite of its apparent differences, is substantially identical with pure Traditionalism, and falls under the same criticism, since religious and moral truths are declared to be given to man directly by Revelation and accepted by him antecedently to any act of his reason.
According to traditionalism, human reason is of itself radically unable to know with certainty any truth or, at least, the fundamental truths of the metaphysical, moral, and religious order.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15013a.htm   (1129 words)

  
 Roman Catholic Traditionalism?
Catholics believe that Jesus of Nazareth who appeared on the earth some two thousand years ago was that expected redeemer, and because He was the 'Messiah' or 'Christ' (the anointed one), Catholicism is said to be Christian.
The Catholic faith originates from the old Jewish religion.
A sacrifice is the offering of a victim (i.e., a person or thing) by a priest to God alone, and the destruction of it in some way, to acknowledge that He is the Creator and Lord of all things.
http://www.geocities.com/catholic_traditionalist/basics.html   (1501 words)

  
 Roman Catholic Traditionalism?
Under normal circumstances a Catholic diocese (or 'see') is said to be sede vacante when there is no resident bishop, which can be, e.g., when the local bishop has died and one is yet to be appointed; in such instances official diocesan correspondences carry the words sede vacante in place of the bishop's name.
Between 1962 and 1965 the bishops of the Catholic Church met for the Second Vatican Council.
They believe that most Catholics, especially those occupying the highest offices of the Church, have been infected by liberalism, the heresy of "Modernism" (a heresy vehemently condemned by Pope St. Pius X at the beginning of the 20th century), and other suchlike errors.
http://www.geocities.com/catholic_traditionalist   (3485 words)

  
 Pope John Paul II seeks to avert 'Protestantized' Catholic Church
Catholic ecumenism and immigration created a greater Catholic presence in the North; missions exponentially increased Protestant minorities in the South.
For here, as nowhere else, one possible Catholic future exists: Roman Catholicism is one religion among many in a culture defined by Protestant individualism and religious pluralism.
Additionally, the pope may hope that the South's Catholic traditionalism might dilute North American liberalism -- and thus provide a stricter Catholic counterbalance to secular, post-modern culture.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/bass26.html   (819 words)

  
 Orthodox Traditionalism vs. Roman Catholic Traditionalism
Traditionalist groups in the Roman Catholic Church are obliged to violate the ultimate authority in their Church to be where they are.
In the Roman Catholic Church, Apostolic Succession itself resides in the person of the Pope, who is Christ’s Vicar on earth.
One can persuasively argue that since, unlike Orthodox, they do not attribute primacy to Holy Tradition, Roman Catholic traditionalists have no foundation on which to justify their schism from the Mother Church of Rome, especially when such separation is forbidden by the Pope himself, the very criterion of authenticity.
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/rome_orth.aspx   (460 words)

  
 Religioscope: Traditionalism: René Guénon's legacy today - Interview with Mark Sedgwick
Traditionalism at the start was more or less an intellectual movement — find the true religion of mankind, that sort of thing.
I call those who look for a firm anchoring in their own or some other religion those for whom Traditionalism is a "stepping stone" — it gets them somewhere, whether to Sufi Islam or Russian Orthodoxy or whatever, and then they just get on with where they are.
From these beginnings grew Traditionalism, emerging from the occultist milieu of late nineteenth-century France, and fed by the widespread loss of faith in progress that followed the First World War.
http://religion.info/english/interviews/article_53.shtml   (2770 words)

  
 Favorite Resources for Catholic Homeschoolers - Red Flag - Catholic Family News
But naive Catholics who think this is true help the devil do a double-whammy on the Church (first a liberal destruction of teaching and liturgy by disobedience to the Council, and second the removal of traditionalists from the arms of Holy Mother Church in their strong reaction against the first set of evils.
These issues relating to Vatican II can be very difficult for faithful Catholics and present a real challenge to our faith.
Also see:Refutation of Catholic Family News' Allegations regarding the shrine at Fatima
http://www.love2learn.net/redflag/rfcfn.htm   (877 words)

  
 The State News - www.statenews.com
Mel belongs to a religious faith called "Catholic Traditionalist," an ultra-orthodox sect that views the contemporary Catholic Church as an illegitimate sellout to liberals and heretics.
Clearly, if Catholic Traditionalism is the correct path to salvation, Mel certainly was born with a "leg up" on the rest of us.
In Zoroastrianism, an ancient religion that appears to have influenced heavily the Abrahamic faiths, good people were thought to go to heaven regardless of what religion they practiced.
http://www.statenews.com/print.phtml?pk=22543   (968 words)

  
 Catholic Church Conservation
The Shrine to Judas in a Catholic Church
was Catholic- just to prove it is not only anglicans and Lutherans who steal Churches from Catholics.
News and comment on Catholic church closings throughout the world.
http://www.cathcon.blogspot.com   (2182 words)

  
 To the Editor of This Rock;
True Catholics hear and obey the words of the Pope and refuse to countenance any purported "Catholic teacher" who dares to teach that which the Pope (Pius IX) has condemned, no matter who that "teacher" is. Vatican II all but contradicts the Pope (Pius IX) by affirming the condemned proposition when it states "...
Once one hears the case made by traditional Catholics, one can only accept that case and join them or else turn their back on all integrity and join those who know they are in the wrong.
Let any lifelong Catholic, 50 years of age or older, visit any traditional Catholic parish, and study every detail of their belief and practice.
http://www.the-pope.com/keating4.html   (1396 words)

  
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M.E. Morrison According to Roman Catholic Tradition, the Traditional (pre-Vatican II Roman Rite, “Tridentine”) Latin Mass in all its essentials was passed on by St. Peter, the first pope, to the Church.
Finally, on behalf of all traditional Catholic faithful, the Registry again expresses its gratitude to all traditional Catholic priests who have courageously, and often at great personal sacrifice, heeded St. Paul's Apostolic admonition: State et tenete traditiones (2 Thessalonians 2:15).
Michael the Archangel Traditional Catholic Church 711 Andy Devine Ave., Kingman, AZ 86401 Rev.
http://www.traditio.com/tradlib/masslat.txt   (17462 words)

  
 SSPX Agenda
Integrists are in doctrinal opposition to the Roman Catholic Church.
In the case of the Catholic Missions Office of the Archdiocese of Chicago, the missionaries with whom they work appreciate the opportunity to say these Masses because the stipends for the Masses help with the priests' upkeep and their work.
Therefore, to be faithful to Rome of Tradition, one must be faithful to the Roman Pontiff whom Christ has presently entrusted with visible headship over His Mystical Body the Church.
http://sspx.agenda.tripod.com   (5019 words)

  
 Return to The Remnant’s Main Page
Arroyo, “through Catholic history that debunks some long-held myths and celebrates the glory of the Catholic faith.
Roman Catholic Traditionalism, in addition to living the Faith, is also about defending it.
The reason for this is simple: the new liturgy is the touchstone of a new theology that is rapidly transforming the Roman Catholic Church into something unrecognizable, from the standpoint of Catholic tradition.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/HOMEPAGES/REMNANT/camp1.htm   (4634 words)

  
 Friends of La Nef
A blog promoting Catholic traditionalism and the Ecclesia Dei movement through orthodox, intelligent and non-polemical writing that remains respectful of the Church and her hierarchy.
For schismatics have believed the teachings of the Catholic Church and practiced many devotions, however they were not Catholic.
This is not to dismiss devotions, or dismiss upholding the Catholic faith.
http://friendsoflanef.blogspot.com   (6773 words)

  
 Cor ad cor loquitur
In the event of any (unintentional) doctrinal or moral error on my part having been undeniably demonstrated to be contrary to the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church, I will gladly and wholeheartedly submit to the authority and wisdom of the Church (Matthew 28:18-20; 1 Timothy 3:15).
The Catholic Verses: 95 Bible Passages That Confound Protestants
To the best of my knowledge, all of my theological writing is "orthodox" and not contrary to the official dogmatic and magisterial teaching of the Catholic Church.
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2005/09/dave-armstrong-protestant-evangelical.html   (554 words)

  
 Catholic Apologetics Books by Dave Armstrong: <Pensees on Catholic Traditionalism>
The valid use of the word is simply as a synonym for “orthodoxy,” as traditionally practiced and developed and believed for 2000 years of Church history, and dogmatically upheld by the authority of the magisterium of the Catholic Church.
When it is abused, it is a synonym for “traditions of men falsely made out to be the only proper traditions of the Church.” It is a faulty and erroneous use of both dogma and private judgment (and often, selective judgment) contrary to orthodox Catholic theology and ecclesiology, and also Christian unity and charity.
I have no agenda other than the pursuit of truth and the “mind of the Church” on the matters of authority and true apostolic Tradition.
http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ465.HTM   (1379 words)

  
 OSV STORY FOR SEPTEMBER 1
Ryan believed that the reduction in work hours presented "the opportunity for a great flowering of culture and religion among the masses of people," Hunnicutt explained.
It was, of course, an exaggeration -- a cartoonlike picture of Protestant and Catholic work habits, circa 1900.
He pointed out that a leisure ethic has always been taught by the Church, if not religiously practiced by Catholics.
http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/OSV/96sep01.html   (1653 words)

  
 TRADITIONAL THOUGHTS April 9 issue (mar9tra.htm)
Rather, it is the Holy Father and the bishops who are outside the Catholic mainstream, and at odds with Scripture, tradition and natural law.
Let us not forget that the contention between neo-Catholicism and Roman Catholic traditionalism is a kind of World Series of ideas, whose stakes - for Holy Mother Church, for our families, indeed for the family of man - could not be higher.
Rather, it is the Holy Father and the bishops who are outside the Catholic mainstream, and at odds with Scripture, tradition and natural law."
http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2002Apr/apr9tra.htm   (2116 words)

  
 Overcoming Cafeteria Traditionalism
To all those Catholic faithful who feel attached to some previous liturgical and disciplinary forms of the Latin tradition I wish to manifest my will to facilitate their ecclesial communion by means of the necessary measures to guarantee respect for their rightful aspirations.
Fixed, mandatory disciplinary guidelines, as were historically promulgated by the Church, lent themselves to a culture of discipline and fostered a respect for Church authority.
It's true that the destruction of Catholic culture has made the practice of the faith in the world much more difficult for most Catholics.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/989113/posts   (6844 words)

  
 Integrists in the Catholic Church
It is to the living magisterium of the visible Roman Catholic Church that Christ promised to be "with...always, even to the end of the world" (Mt 28:20).
The Catholic faith is primarily a way of life nurtured by the sacraments.
Accept the teachings of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the argument is over, Mr.
http://www.angelfire.com/in3/integrism   (6759 words)

  
 Is the Pope Catholic...Enough?
Gibson is the star practitioner of this movement, which is known as Catholic traditionalism.
A representative for the property owner explained that the church was Catholic, but it wasn't affiliated with the Roman Catholic archdiocese.
That theology is a strain of Catholicism rooted in the dictates of a 16th-century papal council and nurtured by a splinter group of conspiracy-minded Catholics, mystics, monarchists and disaffected conservatives -- including a seminary dropout and rabble-rousing theologist who also happens to be Mel Gibson's father.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/general/general534.html   (2491 words)

  
 The Great Façade - Vatican II and the Regime of Novelty in the Roman Catholic Church
Over 400 pages of skillful defense of Catholic tradition as well as refutation of the neo-Catholics’ most used and abused canards against Catholic traditionalists.
Vatican II and the Regime of Novelty in the Roman Catholic Church
Do you think the Catholic Church is in a state of crisis?
http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/facade.htm   (454 words)

  
 Militant Secularists
Over the past year, ecumenism has become a hot topic in the debate between those who advocate a Catholic traditionalism in full communion with Rome, and those who would prefer to reject the Second Vatican Council and suspend their obedience to the Roman Pontiff.
This question is important because those who reject ecumenism in the name of Catholic Tradition often argue that in order to facilitate ecumenical dialog, the Second Vatican Council downplayed the Church’s unique claim to be founded by Christ upon the Rock of St. Peter.
In concluding this reflection on Vatican II and ecumenism, one discovers that the council’s teachings on ecumenism mark no departure from what the Church had always taught.
http://www.thewandererpress.com/b1-16-2003.htm   (1395 words)

  
 Catholic Restoration Home Page
This is clearly a usurpation of the authority of the Catholic Church.
Today John Paul is the antichrist; tomorrow he is the Vicar of Christ; the next day he is not Catholic; the following day he is the Holy Father.
It is clear that we would never have been able to accept this, and we would have had to break over this issue alone.
http://www.catholicrestoration.org   (919 words)

  
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Through the mediation of Augustine, by the eleventh century there emerged the medieval Catholic paradigm, cen­tered on Scholasticism and the papal organization of the church.
This patristic para­digm provides the basis for Orthodox traditionalism.
These continue as thought forms in Protestant and Catholic tradi­tionalism.
http://emp.byui.edu/stephensonv/Paradigmsintheology.htm   (4511 words)

  
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Seattle Catholic is not affiliated with the Archdiocese of Seattle A Journal of Catholic News and Views 24 Sep 2003 Overcoming "Cafeteria Traditionalism" by Ronald J. Colombo The wake of the Second Vatican Council capsized countless Catholic traditions.
Those are the effects of "original sin." But he didn't mean it that away.
Open Letter to Catholic Family News on Sedevacantism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=traditionalism   (2930 words)

  
 Where Peter Is... - The Tradition of the Resurrected Remnant Roman Catholic Church
This Website has been established for the purpose of tracing the whereabouts and nature of the true center of Roman Catholic Authority during the controversial latter half of the twentieth century, and now going into the twenty-first.
- The Tradition of the Resurrected Remnant Roman Catholic Church
The true Catholic-at-heart needs to do some real serious meditation on what has been happening so as to gain an understanding and know how to proceed.
http://www.the-pope.com   (116 words)

  
 The Latin Mass – A Journal of Catholic Culture
Traditional Catholics and The Spiritual Life by Father James McLucas
What it Means to Be a Militant Catholic Today
The Latin Mass &; A Journal of Catholic Culture
http://www.latinmassmagazine.com/conferences/conferences_audio.html   (146 words)

  
 The Pope's True Revolution :: Faith :: Hyscience
He opines that although we may think of John Paul II as the conservative Pope, and that his pontificate was marked shoring up structures of the past and by a resurgent Roman Catholic traditionalism that set the church against liberalizing forces of all kinds - he suggests that such a view is wrong.
According to James Caroll in this Times Online special, John Paul II's legacy is more profound than mere Catholic conservatism.
According to James Caroll in this Times Online special, John Paul II's legacy is more profound than mere Catholic conservatism.
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/04/the_popes_true.php   (492 words)

  
 phatmass - Reading Room
--The "Old Catholic Church": False Bishops, False Churches
Support phatmass buy purchasing the new Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church!
--Detection and Overthrow of the 'Traditionalist Catholics' Falsely So-Called
http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=17672   (1458 words)

  
 Seattle Catholic - Patriotism and Criticism: Allies, not Enemies
Where does our religion permit us to act like this?
If there is anyone within Catholic traditionalism who welcomes such a confrontation and the potentially catastrophic outcome it could well have — in short, if any traditionalists out there are yearning for Armageddon — all I can say is that there are plenty of evangelical rapturists ready to welcome you with open arms.
The President apparently believes that once Saddam Hussein is gone, the U.S. will be able to put pressure on the Israelis to come to a final peace settlement with their neighbors and with the Palestinians.
http://www.seattlecatholic.com/article_20030425.html   (2040 words)

  
 - Roman-Catholic Forums
Many Catholics Reject Church Ban on Birth Control, Condoms
SINNING AGAINST SATAN BY ALLOWING CHRISTIANS SEXUAL PLEASURE AND LIVING LONGER WITH ENDORPHINS...KMD HAS STUDIED HUNDREDS OF HOURS, POSSIBLY THOUSANDS OF HOURS, OF THE HUMAN BRAIN IN THE 1990'S AND PSYCHIATRY AND PSYCHOLOGY
http://www.usenetreligion.com/history/forum.php/6-17.html   (1357 words)

  
 Traditionalist Conservatism Page Turnabout
Defending the perennial Magisterium and Catholic traditions, and working for a restoration of Christian civilization.
Traditionalism seems more clearly constitutive of Eastern Orthodoxy than other branches of Christianity.
, a general account of past, present and future threats to Catholic Christianity.
http://jkalb.org/?q=node/7   (3248 words)

  
 Una Voce America
Catholic Lay Leader and Una Voce Founding President, Dr. Eric de Saventhem: R.I.P. Diocese of Orlando Approves Traditional Mass
Fraternity of St. Peter to Begin Apostolate in Lexington, Kentucky
http://www.unavoce.org   (185 words)

  
 Welcome
But sorry, given that I'm a Catholic, husband, father, engineer, cantor, hobby farmer, and all around good guy, I'm not going to argue with you.
By all means, send any and all constructive criticism for our edification and education.
But I will take to heart any constructive criticism you have of the content of this site.
http://www.traditionalcatholicism.com   (207 words)

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